Saturday, May 26, 2007

Another example of IAF duplicity (as if more evidence was needed)

Last week, Al Rai published a little article saying that IAF secretary general, Zaki Bani Irshaid, met with staff of the National Democratic Institute. He reportedly asked them to help the IAF in the upcoming elections through training courses. He also asked the NDI staff to keep the meeting secret “for fear of affecting the party’s image”

The IAF reacted furiously, issuing a statement attacking the article, calling it “a method by their opponents for abandoning rational national debate and sinking it to low and sleazy levels”. They also suggested that the government is spying on them. They implied that the meeting was to explain the IAF rejection of unjust American policy. No mention of helping with the elections. Later, Bani Irshaid claimed that the meeting was kept secret at a request by the NDI. He also said, as in the statement, that the IAF has no problem with meeting non-governmental groups.

Now, this would carry some credibility if not for the fact that the Islamists are constantly attacking other people who cooperate with non governmental organizations. One commentator on Ammon referred to this article published in the IAF mouthpiece, Al Sabeel. In it, the NDI specifically is attacked, with the newspaper claiming that it has links with the CIA and that it is a tool of US foreign policy.

Pathetic.

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At 3:36 AM, Blogger Mohanned Al-arabiat said...

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At 3:37 AM, Blogger Mohanned Al-arabiat said...

You just gotta love the IAF, I don't know if you read that-
http://www.ammonnews.net/arabicDemo/article.php?articleID=4919

-and all the hidden attacks..I don't know what people need more to believe that they are a bunch of relegion traders!!

 
At 5:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Jordan, there is always a direct link between a group or person's anti-imperialist, anti-colonialist, and anti-corruption, and the intensity of vilification it is subjected to. When the Iranians were funding resistance groups, Sunni and Shiite, in Iraq, suddenly there was so much talk about the Shiite threat and the expanding Shiite crescent. When Hizbouallah defeated the Israeli onslaught, they were vilified. When Hamas won elections and began reversing the surrender trend, the were vilified. Before them, nationalists and leftists endured the same fate. We live in a time where the moment someone is vilified we know they are doing something right. So as long as you attack the Islamists, we know they are making a positive difference. As for the IAF meting with the NED, who cares. They can meet with the devil. The question is do they stick to their ideals or do they take cash. So for you to try to paint the meeting as some sort of an evil enterprise is too absurd.

Rami

 
At 6:47 PM, Anonymous Fulan said...

am I missing something? since when is meeting with the americans a crime? the islamists were never opposed to meeting with the americans. look, if you want to accuse the guys with wrongdoing it better be in the form of corruption or "security cooperation" with arab killers. As far as we know they have never and they will never do this. And this is exactly why they are popular and this is exactly why they are being subjected to horrendous pressures to betray Jordan and Jordanians. in a world were collaboration and corruption is the favorite past time of the regime, the islamnists stand out like a sour thump with their impeccable track record. thats' why they pose a serious challenge to all the other contenders on the Jordanian political stage, most of whom have nothing to offer to compete with the islamists but cheap slogans

 
At 7:25 PM, Blogger Khalaf said...

Mohanned: I suppose they are fun, as long as you don't take them too seriously.

Rami: Yes, because I am pointing out their innumerable faults, they must be OK. Your analytical skills are astounding. I am attacking their duplicity, and not their meeting with Americans. Can you understand the difference?

Fulan: Impeccable track record? They something to offer other than cheap slogans? You make me laugh. What, pray tell, do they have to offer but an outlet for people who hate Jordan?

 
At 10:04 PM, Anonymous Batir said...

Hey Khalaf I see that you have started to get visits from the lovely chaps who have a crusade in attacking my blog on daily basis. Good luck for you and keep your nerves in cold water.

 
At 10:15 PM, Blogger Khalaf said...

I'm shaking in my boots :)

 
At 10:29 PM, Anonymous Baghdad said...

you accuse the islamists of cheap slogans yet it's not the islamists who provide aid and comfort to arab killers. i never heard of security cooperation between them and US or Zionists. i never heard of islamists torturing political opposition as a favor to US. i never heard islamists speak of shiite crescent and other hateful sectarian propaganda. way i see it, they are`the most principled of all the players in the jordanian front. and that's depressing.

 
At 10:38 PM, Blogger Khalaf said...

"not the islamists who provide aid and comfort to arab killers": Zarqawi's fan club?

"security cooperation between them and US or Zionists": The occasion has not risen. However, head of the MB in Syria has stated that he is willing to cooperate with the US; and the head of the MB in Iraq (Tareq Hashimi) is in bed with the occupation government.

"i never heard islamists speak of shiite crescent and other hateful sectarian propaganda": I would refer you to the attack on Christian Parliamentarian Raed Hijazin in January, 2006. I wrote about it at the time.

 
At 9:41 AM, Anonymous batir said...

"i never heard islamists speak of shiite crescent and other hateful sectarian propaganda". I guess paying tribute to Zarqawi who was the mastermind of the sectarian conflicts in Iraq is considered a decent act by Islamists?

 
At 9:44 AM, Anonymous Batir said...

"security cooperation between them and US or Zionists". Of course, the USA- Mujaheedin links in the 80s against the communists infidels. In 2001 Ben laden came back to rooster in the USA itself but never ever in Israel! Makes you wonder why?

 
At 9:46 AM, Anonymous Batir said...

"not the islamists who provide aid and comfort to arab killers". No need to provide aid and comfort, the Islamists do thios by their own hands in Iraq, Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and now in Palestine. Need to continue with this shameful profile?

 
At 6:01 PM, Anonymous Gallab said...

batir, no matter how bad or good some islamists are, they all have one thing in common. they are anti-imperialist and anti-colonialist and anti-corruption, and anti-provincialism. the four most devastating cancers plaguing Arabs. As for your axis of moderates, they all have one thing in common, they survive so long as they nurture the Four Plagues. the arab regimes' existence is guaranteed so long as they support imperialism and co-exist with Zionist colonialism. And above all, their corruption has run Arab economies and progress aground. But their most damning legacy is that they see Arab unity as anathema to their power, therefore they have dedicated considerable resources to undermine any pan-Arab project, for fear that pan-Arabism will one day result in unity that will make their Chairs and dynasties worthless.

So the only contribution you can point to from the people you defend is support for the slow destruction of the Arabs and the spread of the Four Plagues. If that's your only alternative to the islamists, you can keep it.

 
At 6:03 PM, Anonymous Gallab said...

Batir, IAF islamists are Jordanian. they are not Afghanis Mujahiden or Saudis Al-Qaeda or Algerian... go back to school and pass Geography 101 and History 101. It will do you a world of good.

 
At 8:09 PM, Blogger Khalaf said...

Gallab: The Islamists always insist that they are pro-regime, and point to their history of support of said regime. Now, you imply that the regime is part of what you call "my" axis of moderates, supporting "the four plagues". So, the Islamists support a regime that supports the "four plagues".

But wait. You say that they don't. You say that they are against everything the regime stands for. So, something is not right here. I'm confused.

You must realize that what they say to the public is different than what they say to gullible recruits. Now, nobody can tell what they really stand for, although I tend to agree with your analysis rather than their own public portrayals of themselves.

 
At 8:39 PM, Blogger Mohanned Al-arabiat said...

Gallab,
The IAF is not a naional organization, it is a world wide orgainization built on the idea of a muslim state. Their members and local leaders serve the ultimate goal of the whole organization as set by their "father", they have their own bank set up and operating in Swisterland, Lots of al-qaeda recruits are "previous" brothers..So, to call it a national movement is a fallacy.

And regarding the conspiracy "law"-it is not theory anymore- why do you think we have been "drugged" for the last 100 years? Is it because they are smarter than "us" or is it because we are stupid? The first step for us to move forward is to forget about the conspiracy theory and start thinkig about how to build ourselves and most importantly our image to the world since image is more powerful that 1000 nukes..
Good luck!

 
At 9:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't confuse avoiding persecution with committing it. the IAF have alwayes tried not to piss off the regime for fear they may give excuse for repression. It seems even after their neutral stance they will still be persecuted, per uncle sam's request.

second, the IAF always opposed the four plagues openly, and that's the main source of conflict with the regime. Hence the price they are paying today.

What matters before and what still matters today is that the IAF and Hamas and Hizbouallah have never ben party to 4 plagues, not publically and not privately. And today, they are paying a deer price for it. Even the US ambassador is twisting arms and bribing tribal chiefs (did you have a meeting with the US ambassador too Batir?)

That just goes to show they are not on the good side of the US or the regime, ans surely not the zionists. And no matter how hard you and those in your axis try to prove the opposite, facts on the ground show otherwise.

Gallab

 
At 10:05 PM, Blogger Khalaf said...

So you agree that they are lying when they claim to support the regime.

 
At 11:47 PM, Anonymous Batir said...

I think the plague of terrorism and Takfiri ideology os currently more threatening than all the so-called plagues mentioned by "Gallab" since this plague actually kills innocent people without discrimination and in a very brutal way, just like the plague of the dark ages in Europe. For me I would rather fight the terrorism plague and stand against any organization providing justification for this plague, just like the IAF does.

 
At 9:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 11:24 PM, Anonymous Batir said...

Who the hell was this freak?

 
At 2:45 PM, Anonymous XYZ said...

Batir: "the plague of terrorism and Takfiri ideology os currently more threatening than all the so-called plagues mentioned by "Gallab""

Really? I am no math genious but when I calculate the Arabs who were slaughtered by the US and Israel in one year, they sure outnumber all those killed by terrorism you blame on takfeeree islamists. Add to that Arab regime brutality and murder, and the alleged terrorists look like 5th grade amatures. Throw in arab regimes collaboration with killers of Arabs and the massive and sustained corruption and the systematic campaign of fostering provincial disunity, and suddenly the alleged terrorists look cute by comparison. This is truly bizarre times we live in. those who commit murder of Arabs by the hundreds of thousands become our allies, and those who want to evict the invaders become our enemies. Neo-liberalism is truly the most grotesque system of political and social values ever devised by "educated" Arabs...Ballan

 
At 8:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Batir, it's not fair when you lump Islamists, espically Jordanian ones, with the Takfeeres as if they were one thing. I am more secular and more liberal than you can ever be or dare to be or wish to be. At least I can be fair, regardless of what I think of Islamist beliefs (and I don't think much of it). You can't.

There are many Islamists in my family and circle of friends and they are decent people who subscribe to live and let live and they tend to be more giving, out of a sense of religious duty. And the IAF have always been loyal to Jordan and even some faulted them for being too soft as an opposition. If any, the Jordanian Islamists, when compared to most other Islamists, have always been on the good side of the regime, up until the war on terror and their rising popularity as a result of their unconditional opposition to any form of security cooperation with zionism and imperialism. Their one and only fault today is that they refuse to cohabitate with killers of Arabs. If any, the islamists in Jordan are the leading providers for the poor, more so then the central government. that's another reason they are seen as a threat. Better let Jordanian children starve and grow up illiterate, then give the islamists the chance to win hearts and minds with their low-key but very effective charity work.

I am really starting to detest the status quo. those who care for Arab women children become outlaws and undesirables, those who starve and kill them by the tens of thousands become our friends. Something is awfully wrong with this picture.

 
At 7:43 PM, Anonymous Batir said...

xyz you just need to calcualte the number of casualties falling victims to the so-called Islamic resistance in Iraq in 2006 alone and that will be a record even Israel and the USA cannot break. The avergae is 100 victims per day and the annual total is 3650 victims in Iraq alone each year.

 
At 7:45 PM, Anonymous Batir said...

Anonymousl help me out here please since you seem to be a more "liberal than I can ever be". Why those decent Jordanian Islamists never issue any statement condemning the terrorist acts of Qaeda and other killer groups?
Eagerly waiting your answer, liberal!

 

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